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The Trial Lawyers College Podcast

The Trial Lawyers College Podcast talks to leading attorneys, TLC board members, and faculty about the ideas and the issues that are affecting trial lawyers today. The TLC podcast covers courtroom strategy, communicating with jurors, connecting with clients, methods that drive success, balancing healthy relationships with a busy practice and more.
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Mar 31, 2025

Marines Jessica McLaughlin and Brett Dunn gear up for an upcoming trial while attending the week-long Trial Skills Foundation Course at Mo Ranch. In this episode, they compare and contrast the nuances of civilian and military court trials, discussing the strategic importance of understanding witnesses' mindsets through TLC techniques. Jessica and Brett emphasize the need to balance rigorous trial preparation with the flexibility to bring a human touch to their proceedings, ensuring that both direct examinations and cross-examinations are effectively informed and shaped by these insights.

Mar 24, 2025

Scott McCann, a first-time student at the Trial Skills Foundation with TLC, describes his first experience with psychodrama as a protagonist. In this episode, Scott discusses how the process of role reversal and exploring diverse perspectives enriches his understanding of jury dynamics. He delves into how facts, experiences, and varied viewpoints shape juror perceptions and influence their interpretations of case facts, highlighting the transformative power of psychodrama in legal training.

Mar 17, 2025

Allison Mahoney, a first-time attendee at the Trial Skills Foundation Course at Mo Ranch, shares her initial impressions of the Trial Lawyers College and her experiences with psychodrama. In this episode, Allison discusses the rapid pace of the course that uniquely facilitates vulnerability and trust among participants, crucial for deep connections. She also delves into the importance of truly connecting with clients to effectively tell their stories by painting a complete picture of their lives, emphasizing how this approach can transform legal advocacy.

Mar 10, 2025

Patrick McLain, a 2012 TLC graduate, shares his journey through a challenging three-year-long sexual assault case that recently ended in dismissal. In this episode, Patrick recounts specific instances where employing TLC tactics in court led to both setbacks and successes. He provides a candid look at what it means to be on your feet, advocating fiercely in the courtroom, and the lessons learned from when things don’t go as planned and when they triumphantly succeed.

Mar 3, 2025

Ron Estefan, Vice President of the Trial Lawyers College Board of Directors and a 2005 TLC graduate, shares insights from his recent victory in a premises negligence case. This episode dives into how Ron applied TLC methods to navigate lacking conditions and restrictive courtroom environments effectively. Emphasizing a proactive approach, Ron discusses the strategy of "Don't ask, just do," waiting for intervention from opposing counsel or the judge rather than seeking permission. He also gives a brief overview of a powerful listening exercise used in his practice.

Feb 22, 2025

Maren Chaloupka, the current TLC president, and John Sloan, her predecessor, delve into the nuanced TLC approach to advocating for fair compensation in legal settlements and verdicts taught at The Courage to Ask TLC event. They explore the critical process of determining an appropriate sum for clients and discuss the complexities involved in assigning monetary value to invaluable losses. This episode examines the inherent challenges of asking for financial compensation in cases where life is priceless, within our imperfect legal system, emphasizing the need for conviction and strategy in the courtroom.

Feb 10, 2025

Eric Ganci, TLC staff member since 2018, discusses a unique blend of techniques he uses to enhance focus and grounding. In a memorable cross examination session, Eric had a student reverse roles with a client, immersing them fully in the courtroom scenario. Listen as Eric details his experience with working and practicing skills through TLC methods.

Feb 3, 2025

Patricia Anderson provides a comprehensive overview of the Trial Lawyers College's 7-step program, an alternative pathway to graduation. This episode delves into the specifics of the program, outlining the importance and objectives of each step. Patricia explains how these steps are designed to enhance the skills of trial lawyers through personal growth and skill development, ensuring they are well-equipped to advocate with empathy and effectiveness. Tune in to gain insights into this transformative educational journey.

Jan 20, 2025

Learn how Ross LeBlanc, a civil plaintiff attorney and four-time regional TLC attendee, used his trial skills to secure justice in a devastating DWI case involving the loss of a six-year-old child after Thanksgiving 2022. This episode delves into how Ross prepared for the trial alongside the grieving parents, employing the powerful techniques and strategies he honed through his TLC training. Tune in to discover the profound impact of empathetic legal practice and the difference it can make in seeking accountability and closure.

Jan 13, 2025

Ron and Rafe revisit their enriching experiences at Mo Ranch during the TSF course, where they collaborated on cases and refined their trial skills. In this episode, they delve into the highlights of their time together, emphasizing the fantastic opportunities for growth and learning. They also explore the concept of psychodrama, discussing how it enhances the practice of law by demonstrating the truth, rather than just telling it. Tune in to hear how these seasoned professionals use innovative techniques to elevate their legal expertise.

Jan 6, 2025

Join our host, Mark Wagner, as he interviews Rafe Foreman, who shares a moving story from a recent mediation. Rafe recounts how a heartfelt song about grace and forgiveness, sung by his clients, profoundly impacted both him and the opposing counsel. The defendants were so touched that they insisted on joining and listening to the song again, leading to a rare and emotional moment of unity. Tune in to explore the power of empathy and the unexpected ways it can manifest in legal settings.

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