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The Trial Lawyers College Podcast

The Trial Lawyers College Podcast talks to leading attorneys, TLC board members, and faculty about the ideas and the issues that are affecting trial lawyers today. The TLC podcast covers courtroom strategy, communicating with jurors, connecting with clients, methods that drive success, balancing healthy relationships with a busy practice and more.
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Mar 17, 2025

Allison Mahoney, a first-time attendee at the Trial Skills Foundation Course at Mo Ranch, shares her initial impressions of the Trial Lawyers College and her experiences with psychodrama. In this episode, Allison discusses the rapid pace of the course that uniquely facilitates vulnerability and trust among participants, crucial for deep connections. She also delves into the importance of truly connecting with clients to effectively tell their stories by painting a complete picture of their lives, emphasizing how this approach can transform legal advocacy.

Mar 10, 2025

Patrick McLain, a 2012 TLC graduate, shares his journey through a challenging three-year-long sexual assault case that recently ended in dismissal. In this episode, Patrick recounts specific instances where employing TLC tactics in court led to both setbacks and successes. He provides a candid look at what it means to be on your feet, advocating fiercely in the courtroom, and the lessons learned from when things don’t go as planned and when they triumphantly succeed.

Mar 3, 2025

Ron Estefan, Vice President of the Trial Lawyers College Board of Directors and a 2005 TLC graduate, shares insights from his recent victory in a premises negligence case. This episode dives into how Ron applied TLC methods to navigate lacking conditions and restrictive courtroom environments effectively. Emphasizing a proactive approach, Ron discusses the strategy of "Don't ask, just do," waiting for intervention from opposing counsel or the judge rather than seeking permission. He also gives a brief overview of a powerful listening exercise used in his practice.

Feb 22, 2025

Maren Chaloupka, the current TLC president, and John Sloan, her predecessor, delve into the nuanced TLC approach to advocating for fair compensation in legal settlements and verdicts taught at The Courage to Ask TLC event. They explore the critical process of determining an appropriate sum for clients and discuss the complexities involved in assigning monetary value to invaluable losses. This episode examines the inherent challenges of asking for financial compensation in cases where life is priceless, within our imperfect legal system, emphasizing the need for conviction and strategy in the courtroom.

Feb 17, 2025

Matthew Martin, a 2019 TLC graduate, joins Rafe to discuss his reasons for applying to the TLC program and the impactful first trial he undertook after graduation. Matthew shares how he immediately implemented the methods learned at TLC, focusing on two powerful reenactment stories—one during practice and another in trial—that significantly influenced the outcomes. This episode delves into the transformative impact of TLC's teaching methods, illustrating how they can dramatically enhance legal advocacy.

Feb 10, 2025

Eric Ganci, TLC staff member since 2018, discusses a unique blend of techniques he uses to enhance focus and grounding. In a memorable cross examination session, Eric had a student reverse roles with a client, immersing them fully in the courtroom scenario. Listen as Eric details his experience with working and practicing skills through TLC methods.

Feb 3, 2025

Patricia Anderson provides a comprehensive overview of the Trial Lawyers College's 7-step program, an alternative pathway to graduation. This episode delves into the specifics of the program, outlining the importance and objectives of each step. Patricia explains how these steps are designed to enhance the skills of trial lawyers through personal growth and skill development, ensuring they are well-equipped to advocate with empathy and effectiveness. Tune in to gain insights into this transformative educational journey.

Jan 20, 2025

Learn how Ross LeBlanc, a civil plaintiff attorney and four-time regional TLC attendee, used his trial skills to secure justice in a devastating DWI case involving the loss of a six-year-old child after Thanksgiving 2022. This episode delves into how Ross prepared for the trial alongside the grieving parents, employing the powerful techniques and strategies he honed through his TLC training. Tune in to discover the profound impact of empathetic legal practice and the difference it can make in seeking accountability and closure.

Jan 13, 2025

Ron and Rafe revisit their enriching experiences at Mo Ranch during the TSF course, where they collaborated on cases and refined their trial skills. In this episode, they delve into the highlights of their time together, emphasizing the fantastic opportunities for growth and learning. They also explore the concept of psychodrama, discussing how it enhances the practice of law by demonstrating the truth, rather than just telling it. Tune in to hear how these seasoned professionals use innovative techniques to elevate their legal expertise.

Jan 6, 2025

Join our host, Mark Wagner, as he interviews Rafe Foreman, who shares a moving story from a recent mediation. Rafe recounts how a heartfelt song about grace and forgiveness, sung by his clients, profoundly impacted both him and the opposing counsel. The defendants were so touched that they insisted on joining and listening to the song again, leading to a rare and emotional moment of unity. Tune in to explore the power of empathy and the unexpected ways it can manifest in legal settings.

Dec 30, 2024

John Sloan, the Immediate Past President of TLC, reflects on his pivotal decision to step down and pass the leadership baton. In this heartfelt episode, John discusses the complexities of transitioning from a role he has cherished and how he plans to continue thriving in new endeavors rather than retiring. Tune in to hear John's insights on leadership, change, and the future of TLC under new guidance

Dec 23, 2024

Join John Sloan, Maren Chaloupka, Laura O'Sullivan, and Ron Estefan for some exciting new announcements regarding the TLC board. Listen to hear the legacy and strategic plan for the future of the Trial Lawyers College.

Dec 19, 2024

Mark Wagner, a 2005 TLC graduate and 2015 faculty member from Washington, shares valuable insights on achieving impactful verdicts and the art of being the jury's assistant. In this episode, explore the strategies that lead to significant "not guilty" verdicts and understand how positioning oneself as an ally and guide for the jury can influence the outcome of a trial. Tune in to hear firsthand experiences and practical advice on nurturing trust and credibility in the courtroom.

Nov 25, 2024

Come and listen to Cambry Bristow detail the fantastic work accomplished at the F-Warrior's retreat in Nebraska City, Nebraska. She also foreshadows a coming proposal that will be published in the Warrior magazine detailing the future plans for the Trial Lawyer's College. After listening to Cambry tell about the excellent retreat, you might find yourself regretting that you missed it.

Nov 18, 2024

TLC faculty member since 2016, Thomas Davenport, discusses the importance of communication exercises and tactics that explore the range of human perspectives that impact everything from the classroom and the courtroom. Thomas takes us on an exploratory journey about standing up for others even when it’s tough, developing hobbies that reduce stress, and sharing client’s experiences with authenticity.

Nov 4, 2024

Come and listen to Robin and Dusty tell the story of a man who suffered racial discrimination and hear their strategies and exploits of trying a case in Federal Court that is so rural that the judge doesn't even hold motion hearings in the town where the Federal courthouse is located. See how they overcame their fear of trying a case in a rural, conservative area and gained insights from their experience.

Oct 21, 2024

Come and hear how Mart Harris and Patrick McLain overturned a federal judges ruling granting JNOV at the 5th circuit court of appeals.

Oct 14, 2024

In a remarkable streak of victories, Mark Hartman, a 2019 TLC graduate, secured eight consecutive not guilty verdicts, illustrating the power of connection over persuasion in the courtroom. Listen as Mark details the power of connecting as the messenger instead of forcing jurors to abandon their most deeply held beliefs in the 15 minutes he has with them.

Oct 7, 2024

Jeff Watson, Director of Post Master's Doctor of Nursing Practice program at Texas Tech University's Health Science College, discusses his experience in training nurses on being present for patients including providing a good death experience. Jeff explains how the often called "soft skills" are more accurately called essential skills like compassion and empathy. "We're all just walking each other home".

Sep 30, 2024

Join Eli Heller, a recent TLC graduate from 2023, as he details his journey from heartbreaking loss to a recent trial victory after deepening his understanding of openness in the courtroom. Eli describes how he created genuine connections broke down barriers between him, his client, and the jurors.

Sep 23, 2024

Patricia Anderson, a 7 stepper graduate of TLC, details her experiences with avoiding burnout by having fun, unplugging, and keeping things simple in her off time. Patricia shares personal strategies for taking care of oneself, having fun, and avoiding burnout—all while staying authentic. From cultivating hobbies to talking to tomato plants and chicken eggs, she discusses how these practices help sustain her energy and enthusiasm. Tune in to discover how creating a nurturing home base and embracing simple pleasures can lead to a more fulfilled and resilient professional life.

Sep 16, 2024

Mike Watson, first joining TLC in 2019, discusses the critical importance of building deep connections with clients in legal practice. In this episode, he emphasizes the necessity of comprehensive communication—knowing the worst and best scenarios—ensuring there are no surprises in court. Mike shares insights on the meticulous process of discovering a client's story and finding the key elements that resonate with the jury, reinforcing the idea that understanding and transparency are vital for successful advocacy.

Sep 9, 2024

Join Mike Smith, a 2019 TLC Graduate and recent addition to the faculty in 2023, as he unpacks the lessons from a recent workshop on a medical malpractice case. In this episode, Mike emphasizes the critical importance of forging connections—not just between attorneys and their clients but also between the jury and the client's story. He shares a poignant story about his client whose connection to current events was severed due to a medical issue, highlighting the human aspects that often sway courtroom outcomes. Tune in to learn how empathy and understanding are key in legal advocacy.

Sep 9, 2024

Join Mike Smith, a 2019 TLC Graduate and recent addition to the faculty in 2023, as he unpacks the lessons from a recent workshop on a medical malpractice case. In this episode, Mike emphasizes the critical importance of forging connections—not just between attorneys and their clients but also between the jury and the client's story. He shares a poignant story about his client whose connection to current events was severed due to a medical issue, highlighting the human aspects that often sway courtroom outcomes. Tune in to learn how empathy and understanding are key in legal advocacy.

Aug 19, 2024

Carlos Concepcion, a law professor in Puerto Rico, dives deep into an innovative exercise for mastering closing arguments. He discusses a compelling piece of video evidence showing an encounter between a man and a woman, which is rich with facts supporting arguments from both sides. The exercise involves pausing the video to identify which facts bolster the closing argument, offering a dynamic and interactive learning experience. Join Carlos as he explores the nuances of argumentative structure and evidence analysis in legal training.

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