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The Trial Lawyers College Podcast

The Trial Lawyers College Podcast talks to leading attorneys, TLC board members, and faculty about the ideas and the issues that are affecting trial lawyers today. The TLC podcast covers courtroom strategy, communicating with jurors, connecting with clients, methods that drive success, balancing healthy relationships with a busy practice and more.
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Nov 10, 2022

Simina is uniquely qualified to utilize psychodrama as a certified psychodramatist and in this episode, she not only employs the TLC methods, but gives us a substantive look into the world of the Vaccine court.

Nov 1, 2022

Harry Daniels III splits his time between civil and criminal trials. Listen as he tells you his insights on how to get to know your client better as well as finding your own powerful voice as an advocate.

Oct 25, 2022

Joy Bertrand explains her personal journey to withholding judgment of a client who has made poor decisions. The result was a connection that moved her to tears. Stay tuned and give a listen.

Oct 25, 2022

Felony chief public defender Jason Sosa recounts the value of TLC methods in training young aspiring trial lawyers in the correct way to practice law including jail cell reenactments and role reversals with members of his community.

 

Oct 2, 2022

Listen as Brianne, a professional storyteller, author, and book publisher discusses the power of connection and story.

Oct 1, 2022

Jerry Perry, past F Warrior President, invites you to learn about yourself, your authenticity, and your uniqueness. Listen while he explains the power contained therein.

Sep 11, 2022

Come and listen to Joe Fried, TLC grad of 2002 who has worked on cases in 40 states in the Us, as he talks about fear, a.k.a. "Fred in my head", and imparts his wisdom and insightful methods of turning the voices and fear down a level or two. 

Sep 11, 2022

Eric Davis, our newest TLC Board Member, shares his wisdom, his leadership, and a few personal stories which add up to the greatest piece of advice I have yet to hear on this podcast.  Don't give up, get better!

Sep 7, 2022

State Representative and Trial Lawyer Ann Johnson discusses her new role as a member of the board of directors for the Trial Lawyers College and how she uses TLC methods in the courtroom, the legislature, and as a politician with equal force and effect. 

Aug 29, 2022

Come and listen to Greg Westfalls' insightful, inspirational and creative use of real historical events, exhibited in museums in Montgomery, Alabama, for training purposes for the defense of the damned and in representing the condemned, the downtrodden, and the damned. 

Aug 10, 2022

Tenured law professor and trial lawyer Carolos Concepcion offers insight into TLC methods from his own experience researching the effect of emotions on humans. 

Aug 9, 2022

Advocacy traverses our nation's boundaries.  Listen as Barrister Paul O'Grady explains the Irish court system and his comparison to our system in the US.

Jul 28, 2022

Todd Kelly details TLC winning methods leading to a recent settlement in a trucking case at mediation.  Learn how his client's story and use of story boards through expert witness depositions became the gift that kept on giving. 

Jul 5, 2022

Maren Chaloupka explains the exciting symbiotic relationship between the moth storytelling techniques and TLC.  Maren is the director and leader of the Grad 2 Course for Trial Lawyers College where new and innovative techniques, curriculum, and personal development are taught by outstanding faculty.  Maren details Grad 2 Course and issues an open invitation for all TLC graduates.

Jul 5, 2022

TLC Grad and faculty member Eric Fong explain the connection and path to the empathy he learned at the 3-Week TLC flagship course.  Listen carefully as Eric explains how TLC opened up a new world of creativity in his profession and personal life.  Don't miss this podcast. 

Jun 17, 2022

Learn how major Grethe Hahn represented a convicted and previously sentenced to death member of the armed forces and successfully beat the sentence of death in the retrial. 

Jun 17, 2022

Listen to course co-director Stephen Demik describe the outstanding trial skills course which is coming up soon.  Each director gives detailed examples of the benefits of attending this trial skills course that you won't want to miss.  Tune in and experience an uplifting program with real-life examples for us to all learn from them.

Jun 17, 2022

Listen to course director Jim Leach describe the outstanding trial skills course which is coming up soon.  Each director gives detailed examples of the benefits of attending TLC's Trial Skills Foundation seminar that you won't want to miss.  Tune in and experience an uplifting program with real-life examples for us all to learn from. 

May 10, 2022
Join our special holiday interview with Valerie Malone as she discusses the season of giving. Valerie and Rafe exchange stories of good tidings and cheer.
Dec 16, 2021

“It’s integrity. If you don’t have integrity in your thoughts, it’s going to show. You’re going to come across as fake, and nobody wants to be associated with that.”

Victoria Rusk, a mitigation specialist and investigator from Houston, TX, credits the Trial Lawyers College’s In Defense of the Damned program with giving her the tools that enhance her civil case preparation and her strategy for consulting criminal defense attorneys. She helps clients understand what mitigation is and how the discovery and presentation of their background is critical to saving their life. 

The TLC method teaches that if the jury perceives that an attorney is disconnected from or embarrassed about their client, the jury could adopt that bias and judge the client harshly. Drawing from this, Rusk feels that assessing the case and witnesses help a lawyer better understand their clients’ background. 

When attorneys genuinely empathize with their clients, they can present their client’s mitigation story in a compelling way that helps jurors to overcome the feelings of anger stirred up by the prosecutor. Trial Lawyers College teaches lawyers to identify universal themes to be those many people can relate to, such as parenthood or significant loss.

“As a mitigation specialist, we meet people where they are.”

Dec 15, 2021

“It is the idea of just being yourself and connecting and being genuine and not just pretending to be genuine but being actually genuine...see how that actually works.”

This fall, former prosecutor Adam Murray enjoyed training at the Trial Lawyers College intensive five-day course in Shambhala, Colorado. Although he is not yet a TLC graduate, he describes his time at the TLC as a “life-changing experience.” After leaving the seminar, he determined that the tools provided an entirely different perspective that would benefit all aspects of trial preparation, beginning with Voir Dire. 

“How can I be empowered to make sure that my client can get their story before the jury so that the right result happens?”

Being able to authentically connect with the jurors from the beginning of the process helps attorneys avoid seeming adversarial. It allows lawyers to work collaboratively with the jury and to practice the law while retaining their humanity.

Murray has since added a psychodrama room onto his office space for helping clients prepare for trial, so they would be better able to live out the critical moment on the stand. As they express their feelings regarding the experience, jurors can identify with the victim and their loss.

Nov 5, 2021

“Lawyers get bogged down in minutiae and facts. The facts are important. The facts are the latticework upon which you hang the flesh of your case, and the flesh of your case is going to be the principles, the values, the emotion, the feelings, the betrayal; those types of things are what make a case relatable to a jury.”

This week, Kenny Adair, former district judge and 2007 graduate of the Trial Lawyer College (TLC), attributes his success to TLC. When he left the program, he felt better equipped to discover and understand his clients’ stories and tell them in a way that the jury would embrace. Through the use of reenactments, among other methods, he can discover the backstory and connect personally and emotionally to each case.

Adair tells the essential story during voir dire, during the opening statement, when questioning the clients and witnesses, and during the closing argument. He identifies the hero or would-be hero and the villain, the liable party. He shows the villain’s betrayal and is ready to capitalize on the defense counsel’s trial behavior that compounds the original harm to the client.

Nov 5, 2021

“You’ve got to understand who your audience is really is. What are the morals of your jury? Once you understand their morals and whether they’re liberal or conservative, and you tailor your opening statement towards that, you’re well on your way to getting the verdict that you want.”

In this episode of the TLC Podcast, host Rafe Foreman meets with Kentucky-based trial lawyer Frank Mungo to discuss his unique approach to storytelling to resonate with the judge and jury in a variety of criminal cases. Guiding listeners through the details of some of his most successful trials, Frank provides an insightful look at the personal values and political biases that can influence judges’ and jurors’ connections with our clients and the ultimate outcome of a case. 

Nov 3, 2021

“If the cancer is a wake-up call to spend the rest of my life—however long I have—to live a life with more quality and being more genuine, I’m not thinking that’s too unfair.” 

This episode of the TLC Podcast features Laurie Goodman, the beloved executive director of the Trial Lawyers College, who speaks with host Rafe Foreman about her April 2021 diagnosis of metastatic breast cancer. As she shares the insights she’s discovered about herself in the wake of her ongoing health struggles, Laurie offers a critical reminder of the value of accepting one’s life path, surrendering control, and making today the very best it can be.

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